The Science & The Sacred

Welcome to the Science and the Sacred. I'm your host, Sinead Brophy, and in this podcast we'll cover both the Physiology and the spirituality of what it means to be a cyclical being. I'd love to invite you, my health conscious and spiritually curious friend, to dive deep with me as we embrace the power of cyclical self-care to nourish our minds, bodies, and souls. Welcome to episode two of The Science and the Sacred.

So welcome back. I hope you enjoyed episode one. UM, and are super excited for all of the different topics and content that we're going to be covering. So for episode 2, I simply just wanted to introduce myself and kind of explain, you know, how I got into coaching and I guess why I do what I do. Some of you who are listening probably already know me. So hello, welcome. Thank you for listening. But for those of you who don't, who are like who is Shenade? What is she talking about? Why is she here? Um.

I just thought I'd tell you a little bit about me in my screen. So. So this is going to make sense to some of you and some of it, you know, doesn't make sense. And that's fine. We'll be covering these topics later. But you know, I'm in my early 30s. Um, I'm also a twin. Fun fact. Uh, the twin brother, which is somewhat kind of forms I guess my background of of kind of what led me to get into Women's Health. For anyone who's into Myers Briggs, I am an INFJ, so I'm an advocate according to the 16 personalities.

I'm also a highly sensitive person, for sure feel a lot of feelings. You can get quite overstimulated for any of my astrology lovers. I am an Aquarius, Moon, Sun and Moon. So I was born on a new moon and then I'm an Aries rising. So very interesting mix there. Not a lot of Earth in my chart which is telling. Definitely find it hard to actually grind down all the ideas I have. And then for anyone who's interested in human design, of which I am obsessed.

I am A13 self projected projector. So again, as I said, some of that probably sounds like gobbledygook to some of you, but essentially what all of that means all of those different kind of yet to know yourself. Tools or processes or structures, Essentially all of them are saying the same thing and have helped me to learn about myself, what my parents could probably very easily tell you in two seconds having observed me grow up and move through life.

Is that I am a very imaginative and very creative, cerebral person who loves coming up with ideas to do things. And I love. I absolutely love to really get deep into a topic, which is why I'm forever spending all of my money on courses. But here we are. I just really if I'm going to know something, and especially if I'm going to coach something or teach something, I want to know that topic inside and out. And that is just how I like to work.

I find that interesting. It excites me to go really deep into a topic. And I also learn by making mistakes. So I really have to experience something through trial and error. You know, I test things out and I really give things a go. And that's how I learn. It's how I improve and it's also how I get to coach from experience. A lot of what I talk about, OK, so not pregnancy and postnatal yet, but.

Trouble around food burn out. Being totally disconnected from your body and living up here in a state of complete stress. Menstrual cycle disturbances, All of those things I've actually experienced. You know working in a corporate world. The stress of that I've I've experienced that which, you know, maybe some other coaches have, maybe some some others. But for me, I.

I think it's incredibly important to not only be empathetic, but to be able to relate to the people that I'm working with and the work that I do. And so it comes from a very informed point of view from, I guess, research and learning and qualifications, but also from a lived experience as well. I think that's incredibly important. And then the final thing is how they air incredibly deeply about what I do. Probably as a business owner I could be a little bit more detached, but for any of my solopreneurs out there, you know.

You start this work or you set up your own business because you want to make a difference, because you want to help people. And really that is what fuels a lot of what I do. You know, I enjoyed my other jobs. I actually really did. But for me, they always felt like there was something missing and that was kind of my driving factor to move into the the health and wellbeing world. The final thing I should say, and I kind of wrapped this as well. Again, for anyone who's a projector or highly sensitive person, you're like, yes, preach, I burn out so easily, like.

Incredibly easily. It's frustrating. So it's again informed me and my approach because I think actually a lot of us are living us in a very heightened stage of stress and kind of chronic stress living on the go the whole time living in that kind of unconscious or unhealthy masculine if anyone's familiar with masculine feminine energy. And I've been there and I have been there for a large part of my life and you know essentially just moved book that with me as I moved around the different environments, corporate world.

Gym, working for myself, you know, also as a child and as a teenager, you know, studying through college, all that kind of stuff. And it's again, as I'm saying, it's informed me and my approach was just really trying to help people find that kind of middle ground, find that balance. Like I my goal in life is just to kind of ebb and slow here. Or if I have a really stressful situation, kind of be able to bring myself back to center quite a lot where I used to be over here all the time. And then I go and I'd swing to absolute crash and burn age and then I'd be like and I go all the way back.

That's not good. So because of those experiences that I've had repeated repeatedly in my life, even, you know, I'm relatively young, but I've done a lot, unfortunately learning from mistakes. You maybe, maybe not. I want to try and stay in that middle ground and I want to try and help people.

Learn how to support themselves. Again, as I mentioned in the last episode, with those four pillars of women's well-being to build a really solid foundation so that they're more resilient, that they're able to kind of take the knocks of life and not have to move from one extreme to the other. So yeah, so I guess, you know, as a kid, I loved all this stuff. I was very creative, also, very sporty, you know, played. I danced when I was younger. And then once I found out that I couldn't do points like straight away, I was like, see you later.

And then I started doing so I played soccer. I played hockey, you know, athletics, played badminton and all that kind of stuff. But hockey and soccer were kind of my main ones. And just really liked being being active. But I was also really into art. Art was my favorite subject, absolutely loved it. Really liked history as well. Just loved learning about people, you know, like how they, like, expressed themselves in the world. That just absolutely fascinated me. And also biology. They were like my weird mix of of subjects.

Off the top, I think was like English biology, English biology, art and history. And so it's all, it's all about the people, the person, how we were and how we moved through through life. But I was secretly spiritual on the side, so my mum and my granny would have been into angels and, you know, guardian angels and all this sort of stuff. And mum would have had like Deepak Chopra books around the house and I would have been, I remember buying like a Feng shui kit from like Smith. So obviously it wasn't legit, but you know, I was.

Find like a wicked book. I think I was getting out and you know yoga books from the library kind of before you could really wasn't that much yoga. I think like there was one class when I was a teenager in my local gah club, you know, and it definitely wasn't spiritual. It's way more physical and but I was really interested in all of that. That's just kind of, I was just intrigued about like what what this was all about.

So I've always had this kind of mix within me of of wanting to know more about that spiritual side of us and how we can kind of connect deeper with ourselves and and something else bigger than us. We've also been really interested in the person, the physical world, what's happening with our physical body in the here and now and yeah so I actually decided 1st to go into our history. So I studied history of art and architecture. I actually originally had planned from from fact to go into political science and then my parents kind of.

I think knowing me and seeing him, which I invested in, in things that probably like, I feel like your heart's going to get broken if you go into that world, probably a good choice. But then invariably I've just ended up working with people anyway. But and they were like, don't get sucked into the system. So just doing history of art and architecture. And again, it was really like whenever it came to the economics and politics, I was like, news don't care, move on, let's go. All I wanted to learn about was the people, how things were changing, you know, women during France.

In World War One and how we kind of changed our roles and all this kind of stuff. Very fascinating and wasn't sure where I wanted to go after that. Just knew I was interested in this and wanted to study it. So I decided then to go and do it somewhere with Sotheby's in New York, studying art, business. Total gamble, you know, really convinced myself I'm not good at math, not good at business. That kind of stuff wasn't really my thing and I loved it. I absolutely loved it. Because again, business is all about people.

It's all about how we engage with them or at least the business that I'm interested in. So that then kind of set me up in a different direction. I had a choice between going with a very large auction house and going with a large multinational corporation. And I went with the consulting firm, just really wanted to get a bigger exposure to to business. And sorry, I should say I entered going on and doing the business masters and my research in that area. The business masters, which is something was a PhD and it's very big.

My supervisor was like, you're going to have to put all of that in the appendix. But I just loved it. It was very interesting and it was looking at how art was sold. And again, at that stage was a very new concept, very common now. But at the time it was completely new. So it was trying to understand people's relationships with with how that might work, what sort of art they might buy online would be big pieces, different types of user behaviors, quite fascinating. And I was like, no, I'll go into the general business world to get more of experience in that and kind of then figure out what I want to do afterwards.

And while I was doing that, and I guess through my my teenage years away as well, somewhere along the line I picked up the really annoying trait of perfectionism, which on the surface might sound like a good thing because you're like, oh, you're detail orientated and you know everything's always finished with high execution, but in reality it's completely paradizing. Like completely. I held myself back from so many things.

Because I was terrified. I was terrified of saving, terrified of making mistake again, Any human design people out there, I've got a three in my profile. That's literally how I learn. I learned by making mistakes. But I was terrified of it. That ended up resulting in, I would strongly suggest or suppose that that was a contributing factor to me having an eating disorder. So for a large part of my teenagers and like an early adult years, I was very much struggling. So in and out of therapy and, you know, everything in my life on the surface was great.

No complaints, but on the inside I was a mess. Really really struggling. No sense of self worth. Really caught up in my appearance. How I looked, my weight, movement and exercise changed from something doing that I loved because it was fun. I liked being competitive. I liked playing sports too, it all being about how I looked getting smaller and at that stage and heroin chic was in actually heroin chic size I'm.

Medium to muscular and I can't put on muscle easily and I, you know, had bigger thighs and you know, definitely was not falling into this quote UN quote thing. Ideal just completely spiraled and carried that on into the corporate world as well. So hindsight probably wasn't a great environment for me to go into because you're just going into the Super high pressurized environment where you know you get promoted based on like the plus one activities that you're doing and all this kind of stuff, how visible you are and everything.

So I just threw myself into it now, learned a huge range. The people were great, had a great time from a a work ethic point of view. It it really kind of just fed that flame of perfectionism and um, feeling that my whole worth was tied up in my achievements, what I do, all that kind of stuff. Invariably I got sick.

My mental health suffrage, and I completely got this message from my body. Like, I mean completely, really just totally dropped. All of that work on the feminine spiritual side myself came very interested in just kind of succeeding, getting ahead, really understanding and analyzing and like really going into the kind of masculine side. And it was an unhealthy masculine. And I went to my traveling, which was a great decision.

I was like, I need a break. I was working crazy hours. I was with like India and then Ireland during the day and then you know at night it was why not get sucked in by America but invariably just be on a very poor boundary. So actually getting sucked in, I'm not saying no and that experience and I was like, right, I'm going to try something different and I went to a startup which is actually really fun. Environment was way more my sort of vibe a lot more flabbered of less hierarchal, more sort of and flat based in a flat based corporation, very cracked.

Really interesting. I was working as a product manager. That was kind of the area that I worked in. Love, still love that, love that aspect of my business thing again, I was like something's something's missing. I was like, I don't know what it is, the challenge of this, but something's missing. I don't feel great. Like we're just selling stuff to people on adverts, you know, there has to be something more. While I was in this job and I was training in the gym called Fitter, faster, stronger It.

Was actually what kind of reintroduced me back into exercise and strength training in particular, just being about getting stronger and getting strong inside and outside and not being about aesthetics and not being about weight loss and not being about OK, so yes, putting on muscle, you know, that's when I first started training there. That was my, I wasn't happy with. When my physical body looked, I felt totally disconnected to it. I hadn't been looking after it in any way, shape or form, so I wanted to.

Look better. But really, again, upon the reflection, what I actually wanted to do was feel better in myself. I understood, feel like me again when I didn't feel like me again, but through diet, culture, conditioning, I thought that was me changing my physical experience. And then I feel happier. But what it actually gave me was an experience of being stronger and connecting back and into something that I didn't really realize. I had that level of resilience. And so while I was there, I was working these jobs. An opportunity came up for the gym.

Was doing an Academy to train as a personal trainer. Now I'd already done an animal flow course, just style of movement. And I was really interested in it. And I was away for a weekend with one of the girls and one of my best friends and I kind of mentioned something about it and she was like, you would be amazing. She was like, I just can totally see you being a coach. She's like, I think you'd be brilliant. You're so approachful, you know, you really love it, all this kind of stuff and secretly.

I'd actually wanted to do it. I hadn't shared this with her, but I was deep down like I really want to do it again. Projector. This was my invitation and I was like, you know, when I'm going to do it. So I for six months over the summer, while I was working, working a full time job, studied, signed up to the chorus, was, you know, turning up on weekends, kind of doing these workshops. And I qualified as a personal trainer and as a fitness coach and they had an opportunity for an internship, was unpaid.

I was like, I really want to give this go. I really want to see and I ran the same time as actually getting promotion and work. So I was like, look, how about you pay me the same, but I actually worked last hours because I really want to do this thing and that was it really. So I spent probably about a year, it was the year kind of 18 months. I can't quite remember, um, double jobbing. So that was again actually absolutely amazing that actually everyone was totally cool that and you know, it's very transparent and everything worked out, but I was going in and I was coaching people in the morning.

Coming to work then I'd say like 11 to 12 working until whatever time And then maybe doing a client tour class or two in the evening. I started my own mobility classes in the gym. And then I got to a point where I was kind of earning enough that I was like, why should I just give this a go. And while I was there and I actually remember writing this in my internship kind of application or you had to just kind of self-assessment things like where do you want to see yourself in five years? I was like, I want to be talking about menstrual cycle health I'd kind of gotten interested in.

People training with their menstrual cycle cycle. It was a very new concept. This is like 2018 and again like in social media it was still pretty pretty new. There wasn't that much being spoken about it and I was like, that's what I want to be doing. So through that I got really trained as a pregnancy and post Natal coach. I did the doctor Stacy Sims course and women are not small men and I just really started to learn more and more and more about women's bodies and for me it was.

Changing. I completely reviewed what it meant to be a woman. And I think up until that point I hadn't really realized, but I was actually very biased towards being a woman. I was like, we got out the **** hands, you know, I had been brothers in a mixed school. I had a lot of friends who were guys and I was like, we got our periods, our moods changed with our hormones. Like we can't train the same way. Just like this, you know, doesn't make sense. Like the world is set off, like you don't have to give birth, like, you know.

Especially when I was in the corporate world, I was looking at these people and I was kind of saying it. I remember to one of my friends and there was like, I was like, let's imagine we got together. I was like, we're progressing. We're progressing and progressing. I was like, we have a kid, I have a kid and then I'm here and you keep going and then I've got to go. I was like, the whole system is flawed. I was like, what if you want to take time off and look after kids. I was just, so I really had this whole view where I was like, we are just Delta ****. And it's like I didn't look out on this one.

But it was only through learning about pregnancy and postnatal and our menstrual cycles that I was like, holy moly, we're amazing. Our bodies, our class. It's like we grow a human. It's like we grow a human. And the whole idea is that there's that potentiality for complete creation. Like literally a human. It's like, that's amazing. So. And then again, when I started to understand what was going on, my menstrual cycle, I was like, oh, this makes way more sense. I was like, I actually just have really bad symptoms.

I just need to learn how to manage my symptoms better. I started tracking my cycle more in depth. I started tracking with an aphorus, looking at my temperature, you know. Then I started learning about cervical mucus. All this sort of stuff was learning how to come change my training, make sure I was fueling my training enough. I was 100% under fueling, overtraining, completely stressed. Needless to say, on the surface my cycles looked normal. They were like 28 days once I started looking at.

Kind of tracking cervical mucus and also tracking my temperature, I was like whoa, my uteal phase is like 7 days long, way below the threshold of 10 days and ideally really just back to B12 to 14. So I started to really work on looking after my body and and that's kind of where the four pillars of well-being came out. So that that sort of experience. So it really started to make sure I was eating enough, making sure I was feeling my training at the time I had a whoop.

I was seeing how much strain I was under because it's on my feet all day coaching and then I was going to work, you know, doing all this sort of stuff. I was doing pregnancy post, fatal coaching. I was doing classes, I was doing mobility classes. I was constantly on the go and I definitely was not eating up. And then I was expecting myself to turn around and like absolutely smash at this crazy hard session that I built myself. Like it was not what's going to happen. They're really just kind of scaled everything back and I again around this time as a kind of, I guess, relapse or a flare up of my eating disorder again. So I had to go back and.

The parody and again this was all tied up. The idea of being a coach and having to look a certain way and nadi, yadi, yada and kind of thinking that people only really wanted to come for weight loss. And and then that's when I was just like, this isn't my vibe at all. I was like, I don't want to help people just come and you know shred down to whatever percent body fat. Not that I was getting clients I got anyway, you know, I was getting people because I think just energetic, these people speaking people knew that that wasn't my vibe I was very much into.

Making sure that it was about feeling good, like nourish yourself, getting strong, looking after your heart health, all that kind of stuff and other thing, this, all of this kind of experience started to, um, inform those four pillars. You know, I started to apply those four pillow pillars to myself, But the one that was missing was the and sooth yourself, the self-care, the spirituality. And it was through therapy, which is why I brought it up, that she actually was trying to get me to do somatic practices.

Like hugging yourself, which now would have absolutely no problem. Like, should I jump around the face after having, you know, I'm so comfortable with being in my body, so, so disconnected, that I couldn't actually be tender to myself. I couldn't, I couldn't try and feel where my emotions were in my body. And when she'd asked me to do it, I'd be like, no, you have gone too far. Like, basically I'm. I'm pretty sure I told her to F off one time. I was like, absolutely not. We're not doing this. No. Like I was so up here in my head, was not down in my body.

In any way, shape or form. And it was true. Working with her and then around that time as well and obviously we're, we were locked down. It was in COVID or during COVID I should say the Pandemic and I was coaching more and more online. I was coaching a lot more mobility online and I was like, this is great. It's like I love not being in a place.

Mad errors. Like I was like, I love this. I was like this is way easier. I catch a lot of my clients mostly moved online. So I was like this. I was like this is totally my vibe. I was like, this is great where you know, it was much more on my own terms. Energy was way better and I started to move into more of this kind of spiritual selfcare stuff. I was doing more kind of yoga style flows than just pure mobility style stuff. And on my 30th birthday, which was during lockdown, I signed up for this and it was like a selfloved meditation.

Workshop. My birthday's on Valentine's Day, so it was kind of a 30th birthday gift for myself and for like a Valentine's Day thing. And I went on a journey. It's the only way I can describe it. I literally, like, went out of my body and saw these crazy visuals, completely connected, all these different energy centers. Again, now I know what chapters are, and I was seeing all these different colors and I kind of just rediscovered. It's like I just kind of opened the door to that old teenage self.

The old kids, he was like, totally into all of this spiritual stuff. And then since then, that's just developed and developed and developed. And I had decided to learn about fertility awareness. I really wanted to understand how to understand my body, both for myself but also for my clients on a much deeper level. So I did a fertility awareness course, really helping people to understand how to track their menstrual cycles and build a health record identified when they're fertile, when they're not fertile.

And again, that feeds him so beautifully with obviously what I'm doing, but the pregnancy and post Natal side of things as well. So I kind of had this full like life cycle in my head of Women's Health and I was like very class. And then as I was saying, dropped in this beautiful spiritual practice and I came across menstrual cycle awareness. I was reading the book Red School. This is all kind of around the same time as when I signed up for the meditation course, Red, Maisie's Hill book, Maisie Hills book. Power.

Again, kind of weaved in the fertility awareness with more of the kind of spiritual side, the energetics of menstrual cycle, awareness of these inner seasons that we experienced. And I was like boom, this is it. And then I just decided to start working in that area. So I started doing talks about menstrual cycle health. It's just pain with your menstrual cycle. I ended up going out on my own. Then I set up my own business. So go to Flow Coaching and it's kind of taken me.

It took me a little bit of a while to figure out my fat vibe. You know, I went back and retrained as a yoga teacher because again, that was something that I really wanted to do when I was a kid. And then as I got older, everyone's like it's so over saturated Dublin. There's way too many yoga teachers don't do it. I just decided I was going to do it for myself. It's something I wanted to bring in. The meditation side of things and the spiritual side of things had been that last missing piece for me to feel complete and to feel whole and really supported and it helped me support the other areas.

Of my health and well-being and I want to be able to offer that to clients. And that's been, that's been kind of it, you know. Now I do, I play circles, I do women circles and sometimes it can be hard to niche. So anyone who's you know working for themselves for themselves or works in marketing because I do cover all of these different areas, sometimes it can be hard to sell and also it's not sexy as in like everyone yeah people just want to see the light transformation photos and that's just absolutely not my vibe.

Did a course with Joe O'Brien. If anyone follows him, he's absolutely fantastic. Had first called health psychology for health professionals, which basically just kind of validated everything that I kind of intuitively knew about coaching. And we are essentially blessed with this opportunity where we're the first point of contact for people before maybe they go down a path.

With disordered eating. And we can help change that. And I took that very seriously as a nutrition coach, but also as a as a coach, as a personal trainer and there as a yoga teacher, where I really want everything to be about helping people feel good again. Having gone through that experience of it all being about how I looked and that being the only thing that mattered, it took so much time and energy and stopped me doing things that I look. I don't wear shorts until I was 30 like.

I mean, I did, but I hated it. I really struggled with that. You know, I work for sports, but like that's it. Like that's that's that's that's hard for me to comprehend names. So I really just want to help change the narrative around health and wellbeing, specifically for women, because I think we're totally misinformed about how our bodies work. We aren't really given the opportunity to to learn that. It's by going to schools and teach this sort of stuff. And I think there's an incredible amount of pressure for.

Just to look a certain way and that changes with the wind, you know all one time it's it's thin and it's kind of wafy and next it's like you need to be curvy and next it's you need to be jacked and have a six pack and it's like what? So just whether your body falls into that body type at a time like you know that's that the ideal and I've only mentioned the ideals that I've lived through. That's not talking about like RAF be RAF light.

Vibes. It's not talking about the 1920s, you know, It's not talking about any of the historical ideals throughout history. This is literally talking about those 30 years that I've been being alive on this earth. That's insane, You know, like that pressure that we feel the whole time. And what really upsets me is that the health and wellbeing industry has kind of just been taken over by, like the marketing world for it to sell us all the idea that we're inadequate and that we're not good enough, which is absolute ********.

I'm sorry. Yes, I will. Sometimes, Chris, on this podcast, just if little ones are around. But like, it's a load of, it's a load of BS. Like it's just to get us to buy more stuff and to make us feel bad about ourselves so that we keep buying more stuff and that is white. I really fundamentally believe that gyms, yoga studios, health coaches, influencers, like anyone who is in an area that informs people.

Either directly or indirectly about their health. And well, well-being has a responsibility to actually educate themselves about how what we say impacts people. And the, I guess wide reaching impact that diet culture has on all of us and how we equate health to a certain weight or body ideal when actually health is so much more. well-being is so much more. It's so multifaceted. It's not just one thing and it's not just one thing for one person.

As a saying, that can sometimes be really hard to sell, but that's what I'm here for. Oops, That's my vibe. That's what I want to do. I'm still working away at really building out different ways to help different people. But I love my work. I love that I get to see people make what seems on the surface really simple changes that has a huge impact on their on their lives. And that's that's what gets me up.

In the morning, every day. And you know, helping people see movement as something that's good not only for their bodies but for their minds, for their souls. Going for a hike outside, walking the dog, doing yoga, going for a sea swim. Now I'm a sea dipper. I'm not a sea swimmer. Full disclosure, that, that sort of stuff, you know, it doesn't have to be punishing, grueling exercises. We will be talking in another episode about kind of the recommendations around activity.

And you know, particularly so resistance training in some form or another is, is highly recommended just for bone health, muscle health, you know, mobility, especially as we we age. But like besides from that, it's just doing some sort of moderate activity that could be pole dancing that could be anything. So we're talking more about that. But I just think there is a huge disservice to a lot of women out there and about what we've been fed about the health and wellbeing world and then what we've been informed about our bodies, You know, many of us don't understand how our bodies work.

How our menstrual cycle works, how our reproductive cycle or our reproductive hormones work. They don't understand the idea of masculine, feminine energy. They don't understand the idea of living constantly in this unhealthy masking, this go, go, go. They don't understand how our hormones change and how we are cyclical beings in comparison to men. Men can also be cyclical beings with regards to feeling the seasons of the year and feeding the moon cycle. But.

You know, as women with menstrual cycles, we actually have this kind of cycle that happens approximately kind of every month. Obviously that's, you know, a a very averaged ballpark figure there. But it's incredibly important to recognize that and to actually learn and reframe all of those things as strengths, not as weaknesses. And that for me was absolutely huge. And it is infused in everything that I do. All of these things are not limitations.

Actually understanding how our bodies work and understanding how to work with our bodies, that's where the strength comes and that's where we will find our power. So yeah, that is my somewhat longwinded story about how I got into this work and why I do what I do. But I hope that that just gives you a flavor of, I guess, the experiences that I've had, the I guess, different lives and different hats that I've worn and kind of still wear, and maybe giving you permission to realize that.

We don't have to have it all sort of date. We can't be perfect, you know, all or nothing. Thinking doesn't work. Perfectionism doesn't work. Actually most of us are just looking for trying to find that middle ground, to find some sense of balance, balance, to to find some sense of wholeness within ourselves and fulfillment within ourselves. And that's really all I wish for all of us. So yes, if light this episode.

Give it a like, give it a share. As always you can find more about me and say get in touch with me at Go with the Flow Coaching and then my Instagram handle. And you can also find more information about what I do on my website, gowiththeflowcoaching.com. I'd absolutely love to hear from you. And next episode we'll be talking. The interview's gonna be with.

Don't worry, I'll be getting actual other people for the other months. But for this month, the first month, it's going to be all about me. And I'm going to be talking about the forefitters in in Protect and how maybe you might bring that in to your life or maybe do a bit of a self-assessment. And they do have a free ebook where you can go and kind of do your own self-assessment on these four different areas.

And then turn that into some sort of structured plans for yourself to support your health and wellbeing. So that's going to be next episode. So I hope you join me for that when you listen in. As always, thank you so, so much for listening to this episode.